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Seamus Campbell: Okay. Hi, everybody. This is Seamus Campbell and Christine Doan from Startup Tablelands, but wearing our Connection with Direction hats, which is a subset of Startup Tablelands. And what we’re-
Christine Doan: Actually
Seamus Campbell: … looking at…
Christine Doan: I have the appropriate hat.
Seamus Campbell: Oh, right. Yes, exactly. Well, that’s a special hat.
Christine Doan: A sorcerer’s hat.
Seamus Campbell: Yeah. Well a special transformative technology hat, and that’s what we’re interested at the moment, and I thought rather than giving you a dry, boring definition, perhaps you, Christine, could just talk about what transformative technology can do and a few questions that people might be thinking about.
Christine Doan: Well, mostly none of us really gets what does transformative technology mean? And it can be anything that you may be using already from a Fitbit, a simple Fitbit that tells you how many steps you’ve taken in a day.
Christine Doan: Because when we’re talking about transformation, what are we talking about? We’re basically talking about changing our brainwaves, changing our function, changing our performance, changing our energy levels, changing our stress levels, all the rest of that. Oh, performance, productivity, energy and then stress. And how can we do that?
Christine Doan: Well, one way to do it is simply to quantify whatever it is you’re doing. How much are you sleeping? How well are you sleeping? Maybe you have a sleep app. How much you walking, how long are you walking? How energetically are you walking? And just raising the awareness is the thing that starts to bring about the transformation. So, quantifiable tech, quantifiable biology precedes transformative tech.
Christine Doan: But look, transformative tech has gone from the point where there are some crazy people implanting stuff in each other’s brains.
Seamus Campbell: Yeah, yeah.
Christine Doan: I mean, that is transformative tech. But we’re not talking about that. We’re talking about how do we fit in between a Fitbit and a brain implant and still increase productivity, increase performance, increase harmony in groups, increase flow, increase energy and decrease stress. How do we do that using pieces of technology?
Christine Doan: Look, it can be as simple as grabbing your mobile phone and putting a free app on it. It can be as complicated as installing something in your brain. But for us, it’s going to be something like, you know, I haven’t got my focus band right here, in a personalized electroencephalograph that basically reads your brainwaves in real-time.
Christine Doan: Well, how exciting is that? Do we know when we’re really hitting an alpha state or when we’re in high energy state like now, and when we’re able to let our alpha brainwaves take over? Because that’s where the creativity is. That’s where the flow is. That’s where you can communicate better and more deeply and more trustingly. It’s not in this high interview state. It’s in a deeper state.
Seamus Campbell: And we’ve never been able to truly measure this before, have we? That’s one of the things that transformative tech has been able to do.
Christine Doan: In a laboratory, yes.
Seamus Campbell: Yeah.
Christine Doan: Back in the ’50s, they were sending astronauts up with heart rate variability monitors. These days you can buy a heart rate variability monitor for zero, if you get the app, which are not very good we found out-
Seamus Campbell: No.
Christine Doan: … for $100 or maybe a couple of hundred dollars, and it goes up from there. But the fact is that transformative technology has had a breakthrough in actually the last 10 years and less, that allows us all to be able to afford some form of transformative tech.
Christine Doan: And our question at Connection with Direction is, can we incorporate this into what we’ve already been doing in a way that makes it quicker, easier and more comfortable to increase the things we want to increase, all those productivity, performance, energy, and decrease the stress? Can we do that?
Christine Doan: Well, that’s our exploration at the moment at Connection with Direction and our business mastermind with a difference, and now a second difference, transformative tech.
Seamus Campbell: Yeah. And this is really extremely applicable to an awful lot of alternative healers and healing professionals, isn’t it, that we’re hoping that there’s potential for a lot of these people to be doing or working with this sort of technology. And it’d be interesting to see how many people are already using technology to measure these things.
Christine Doan: I think you’re right. I think that often we have a lot of alternative healers on the Tableland, and a lot of people are there because they have high sensitivity, they can’t live in big cities, they like to be in nature, they like to be connected to a place like this and to a community like this, and some of those will be already tuning in to this transformative technology. Some of them will be just using their intuition.
Seamus Campbell: Yeah.
Christine Doan: But isn’t it interesting that your intuition can fail you, and we might be able to use transformative technology to correct and hone our intuition and our creativity and all kinds of things so that they become easier and more accurate.
Christine Doan: I think that’s something that probably every healer on the Tableland would, well not everyone, because everybody had the different way of connecting to what they need to get done, what their lessons in life are. But some of us sort of, you know, I at 70 feel like, “Hey, I have to take advantage, because I’ve done this my whole life, this self-development stuff and awareness and whatnot, meditation, all those things. I’m really bad at most of them. Why not have a cheat sheet and use-
Seamus Campbell: Exactly.
Christine Doan: … some piece of technology that helps me get there quicker? Because I’m feeling like I’m a college student at the moment that I need to speed up my student [inaudible 00:06:46] of life.”
Seamus Campbell: Yes, it’s a fascinating area, isn’t it? And so many applications that we just haven’t even dreamed of yet. That’s where I find it fascinating, and also the fact that it’s really using technology to help the inner work of humans, whereas in the past we’ve used technology for the outer work, the speeding up your tasks, et cetera, et cetera. This is looking at the inner stuff, which really to do it properly you need to do the inner stuff before you do the outer stuff.
Seamus Campbell: So I think this is absolutely fascinating with potential this is going.
Christine Doan: I think that’s right, and I think that you can do both at the same time, and that’s-
Seamus Campbell: Yes.
Christine Doan: … probably the productive, that you’re actually working on your inner stuff as well as your outer stuff and that’s how you get the biggest gains.
Christine Doan: But it is interesting that there’s endless scope for this, but there are also the ethical problems to think about, you know?
Seamus Campbell: Yeah.
Christine Doan: What happens when we get to the point that for a half a billion you can put a chip in your kid’s brain that makes him smart enough to go to Harvard, whereas he wasn’t going to make it even through high school before?
Christine Doan: Well, all of a sudden there’s some ethical problems there, aren’t there?
Seamus Campbell: There is.
Christine Doan: We’re back to the same thing of technology has taught us how to have three people be the parent of a baby. Well that’s not really part of normal human biological technology, and how do humans work on that?
Christine Doan: So we have a lot of different aspects of this to deal with in Connection with Direction, and we will go in the direction that the group wants to go in.
Seamus Campbell: Yeah.
Christine Doan: Because we haven’t started. We’ve only just started.
Seamus Campbell: Yeah, that’s right. So we want to know what people think and how they’d like to proceed with all of this. So our Connection with-
Christine Doan: Yeah, how they might use it, how they could use it-
Seamus Campbell: Exactly.
Christine Doan: … and how ethically? How to be used-
Seamus Campbell: Yes. Very important.
Christine Doan: A better life by using technology.
Seamus Campbell: Yes. So our next Connection Direction meeting is on Saturday the 19th of October, 9:30 for a 10:00 AM start at our Tablelands business hub, which is 49 to 57 Loder Street in Atherton.
Seamus Campbell: We hope to see you there with lots of ideas and questions we can all discuss that at the time.
Christine Doan: And we’ll be bringing along some examples of transformative tech and looking for you to bring your examples that you’re already using, or your curiosity and your sense of exploration and adventure about what we could be using.
Seamus Campbell: Yep. Okay. We’ll see you there, hopefully. Goodbye.
Christine Doan: Look forward to it – less than a week.
Seamus Campbell: Yeah.