So, Christine Doan again from Startup and Innovation Tablelands. And I’m here with Scott Fittler who’s representing this whole Destiny complex, where our new Tablelands Business Hub is located. And I just wanted to talk to Scott about my latest thing – I’ve always got a latest thing and my latest thing is Transformative Tech!
Now, this is the beginning of a movement where technology is used increasingly for wellbeing, for not only for physical health but for mental health, and spiritual health. This is something that hasn’t been built out and now it’s going to be built out. This is really going to be a big thing in the future and I’m sort of curious to hear how you would see this fitting in with your complex of businesses and where are we going to go with it with Startup and Innovation Tablelands, because this seems to me to be one of the more innovative aspects of the whole startup movement, the whole technology movement right now.
So what is transformative tech? Well, it’s tech that, if you think about it, the lowest level – is that a Fitbit you are wearing? It’s an Apple watch. So it does all those things. So instead of thinking that you’ve done, I’m sure I’ve done 8,000 steps today. you look at it and it says 3,500. Well, my subjective impression wasn’t quite accurate. I think I didn’t sleep at all last night and your aura ring says you slept like a baby! Don’t worry about your sleep. You had eight hours of it like you were a two year old and that shifts the mind and allows you to stop being anxious about the 8,000 steps – get walking and be honest with yourself.
But you know these technologies are going to become something in the future where you’re going to have to make the decision of will I have a chip implanted that makes my eight year-old smarter? Will I have a chip implanted – I might have a pacemaker, I don’t have one, but I might have a pacemaker that keeps my heart going. What about these optional items that are going to make us smarter or more compassionate or more understanding or more creative or whatever it is. This is going to be a big thing. We need to learn to deal with all forms of tech, including Transformative Tech now because if we don’t do it now, first of all, we’ll miss the bus. And second of all, this great opportunity for the Tablelands to be a step ahead on the world stage is going to be missed out on. You know, you see this from a possibly different point of view than I do. What’s your perspective on this?
I think the ethical issues are huge, massive ethical issues and we haven’t even talked about it. Did you hear this in the last election? No! Was this a topic? No! Why isn’t this a topic, this is so important.
Do you know what’s interesting for us? You know, obviously as a pastor coming from a church background, there’s been discussions around microchipping and that for the last 30 years. And I think in other smaller sort of silo kind of thinking, I think now with the technology, the way that it is, the opportunities that are coming up before us, those things are now really, we need to be having the discussion, they are right here, they are not out there- they are right here and we already have wearable tech and there are people who have installable tech already.
There is a whole town in Switzerland who are chipped and they have all of their information that they have key locks and that sort of thing and they have access to their buildings and that through the chips that they have implanted. So that tech, it’s already happening. It’s already here. We have to learn how to deal with it. And so I think rather than, you know, I think if we say put the ethical issues to the side for a second, there’s going to be a lot of people that are going to be talking about that and that’s going to be done to death over the next few years. but it’s going to be largely a knee jerk reaction because we need to be talking, rather than talking in on an ethical level, we need to be talking about the opportunities and we need to be talking about the threats.
I think when we talk about ethics, we largely only talk about the threats and we really need to be talking about what are the opportunities. How is this going to improve humanity? How’s this going to improve our relationships? How’s this going to improve our connectivity with one another? And how can we make sure that it doesn’t land in our laps the way that smartphones did, the way that Facebook did, the way that every social media has now. We didn’t anticipate the disconnectedness that was going to come from all those connections. Exactly. So the polarity, you can’t have connection without disconnection. It all fits together. And how can we make sure that we’re anticipating, and I think the best way to anticipate is to look at the opportunities and to go, okay, what opportunities are there? And then what threats does that give rise to and what are we actually looking to achieve? Because ultimately I think if we just go, we’re looking to get more connected and we’re looking to improve humanity, if we’re in agreement on that, then we’re going to be having a clearer conversation because we’re going to be rallied around a singular vision of improvement. And so we’re going to be not talking about what’s right and wrong. we’re going to be talking well, does this fit with improving and actually accelerating human progress and is it a real improvement or is it not an improvement.
That’s the conversation that needs to happen. And so rather than the right and the wrong of it and I think we get bogged down in the ethics of it and like you said, we get left behind because we’re too busy trying to figure out what’s right and what’s wrong rather than going, do we agree on what improvement looks like? And you touched on that earlier saying, you know, spiritual and emotional and physical. Are we looking at it holistically and saying okay, yes, there’s a physical advantage, but that it’s affecting me spiritually or it’s affecting me emotionally. I think that’s the conversation that needs to happen first and foremost. What is improvement? What is not improvement because that will give us clearly what is not an improvement and that’s the conversation that needs to happen.
So let’s see if we can find a couple of people in Startup and Innovation Tablelands and a couple of people from Destiny who are interested in this subject. Yeah. And we’re all going to get together, a small group right here at the Tableland Business Hub at the Destiny complex, and we’re going to start to work on this. Sounds fantastic? Up for it? Absolutely. Done!